June 24, 2017

Nine Meals from Anarchy; a Food Stamp Melt Down

Nine Meals from Anarchy; a Food Stamp Melt Down

“Nine Meals from Anarchy” is an expression coined by Lord Cameron of Dillington, a farmer from England who was speaking about Britain’s food supply. I believe he is absolutely correct! In modern society when the populace hasn’t eaten, whether because there was no food or it was too expensive for them to buy, civil unrest ensues.

Disclaimer: I don’t touch on politics often and sometimes get complaints when I do. I am going to get into politics today as I believe our governmental practices could have a direct impact on the populace. If you disagree, that’s fine, but keep the discussion civil please. I will tie this back into preparedness.

Over the weekend there was a problem with the EBT (think food stamps) system that was not showing the amount allowed to spend, thus leading to allowing unlimited purchases. Once discovered, the EBT system was temporarily brought down. There were two Walmart’s in Louisiana that decided to let people make purchases anyway. This resulted in crowds so large that one Police Chief said the store was so packed, it was worse than any black Friday. Many shelves were stripped bare. Once the system came up, it was obviously discovered that people were abusing the system. There were other stores that didn’t allow purchases to be made and many shoppers took to social media threatening to riot.

Civil unrest related to food is nothing new. Many of you will remember the world-wide food riots in 2008, but we can go all the way back to Marie-Antoinette (1755-1793). She was the queen of France who said “Well, let them eat cake,” when told that her people did not have bread to eat.
What is the Real Problem?

The problem is so much bigger than a computer glitch and the temporary shutdown of the EBT system. It is my opinion that we have a large portion of the population that has become takers. We have over 47,000,000 people on food stamps, which is over 1/6th of our population. These are people who CANNOT feed themselves without government assistance. I have no problem with people who have fallen on hard times and need the assistance. My parents had to use it when I was a child, welfare and food stamps are the only reason we were able to eat at times.

Unfortunately, there is a huge amount of people who are cheating the system. With a quick internet search you can find ways to game the system and claim benefits that they should just not have. There are also people who live off of government assistance as a way of life, instead of assistance during a rough time.
Cloward-Piven Strategy

Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven were professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. Their strategy was to overload the American welfare system by having it be so large that it would lead to a crisis that would put an end to the welfare system, replacing it with a socialist guaranteed annual income. These radicals and others like them have ties to and are friends with President Obama.

We now we have over 47 million people collecting food stamps, over 12 million on welfare and roughly 5.5 million collecting unemployment. Government handing out “Obama phones”, giving subsidies for childcare to people who are not working and on and on. With the policies of this President, we are approaching that tipping point faster than ever before.
EBT Being Defunded?

On 10-15-2013 I got an alert from AlertsUSA that said:

“USDA: States told to withhold foodstamp / EBT payments for Nov due to funding lapse. If directive holds expect dangerous societal impact, partic in urban areas.”

Since I had planned on publishing this article today, I asked my contact if he has any more info. He sent me the following link; Foodstamp Program Shutdown Imminent? The article is worth reading and the video from a local Utah Newscast is worth watching. For those with limited time, I’ll summarize.

The Crossroads Urban Center in Utah obtained a memo from the USDA (the memo can be seen by following the link). Among other things, the memo states:

“understanding the operational issues and constraints that States face, and in the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are directing States to hold their November issuance files and delay transmission to State electronic benefit transfer (EBT) vendors until further notice.”

Essentially, because of the government shutdown, the USDA is recommending that states not fund the food stamps systems.

With this in mind, remember what I said about Cloward and Piven. It makes a person wonder if the government shutdown isn’t just a means to an end.
What Does This Mean for You?

There have been a few hiccups related to food stamps in the last few years, as well as threats of rioting. Violence, in varying degrees, has broken out each time. What kept these threats and minor violence from breaking into utter chaos and anarchy? Nine meals.

When people who have been led to believe that their government owes them money for food, rent, childcare, cell phones and other related things, and that money is either reduced, or doesn’t come for a week or two, watch out! This is purely speculation on my part, but I believe that this could lead to widespread rioting and looting after just after a few days. If you live in an area with even a moderate percentage of the population on the government teat, pay attention to stories like this in your area and have a bug out plan.

I firmly believe that a prepper should guard the fact that they prepare, as well as what they have in their preps. I have no problems if hard times fall and you feel compelled to share with others, but as I have previously written, Jesus told us to give in secret. This way, if you feel God leading you to share, you can, but it honors God and not you.

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  1. I totally agree with you. Times are scary! While I believe there are some (probably a small percentage of the total) that do need assistance and that do try, there are far more that sit home and use it as their career. We support our 6 children on a moderate income with no government assistance at all. We also have a couple months of food, water and other supplies put back for emergencies (and every months, I budget some for more). I work. My husband works 3 jobs. We do without fancy things. And we budget and look for bargains. And we trust in God to watch over us and lead us. It can be done. The problem is some people are so used to getting everything handed to them, I’m afraid if the government stops, they will forcefully take it from others (like us, who they are essentially already taking from). The government let welfare and food stamps get way out of hand and those who have lived their lives feeling entitled will not settle for less without a fight. That will be disastrous.

  2. wandakate says:

    With hungry adults and screaming children and crying babies, a parents patience will wear out very quickly. Domestic violence will increase. Think about people who have no money for their vices like cigarettes, alcohol, wine, drugs etc. What will happen when they no longer are able to buy them or they are just not available in the stores?
    Chaos, riots, and even worse will occur and in come the government with Martial Law to calm down the masses.
    Is all of that just right around the corner? My common sense tells me it just might be.

  3. One only needs to look at what happened when the system was done for a few hours to see how people will react if it when down or stopped for just a few days.
    GREAT article

  4. First of all, I do not consider your article political so be assured that from where I sit, you have merely written about an important topic that needs to be aired.

    I have been disturbed for quite some time by the inference that everyone on food stamps (EBT) is a scammer. Unfortunately, the cheaters have become so abundant that they place a black mark on those that are really in need: the working poor, the disabled and the elderly. Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish who is needy and who is just lazy and greedy. Sad but true.

    I encourage everyone with a bit extra to donate food via their church, temple or local food bank. Let us do what we can to keep the deserving working poor fed.

    — Gaye

    • You bring up a couple great points. I tend to agree with you, that those who are cheating the system are in the minority. But like the age old adage, it only take one rotten apple to spoil a bunch.

      I wish I would have added about donating to the local food shelf, thank you for mentioning it.

      • I don’t know what is meant by “those who are cheating the system”. It is the system itself that is cheating all of us who have to support it.

        • Chris Ray says:

          I disagree, the welfare system is not by itself the problem. What I mean by cheating is people staying on it forever, people having more children just to collect more money.

          • I interpret “cheating” as doing something illegal, and as far as I know what you describe what welfare recipients are doing isn’t illegal. Food stamp recruiters, as an example, are given sign up quotas. This administration is actively pursuing government dependence and is okay with what you describe as cheating. The welfare and food stamp and disability programs were originally intended to be a safety net, it has now become a means of transforming the country into a socialist system.

          • Chris Ray says:

            You’re right, everything I wrote is legal, maybe cheating wasn’t the right choice of words. When I wrote the article I has the woman in this video, and people like her in mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a780LGWG7to

          • Got it.

  5. Always good! I don’t know why anyone would complain if you inject “politics” in to your article posts. Our LORD was very much involved in politics, He called the Pharisees and Sadducees a brood of vipers! He called out the stone throwers! He was in the face of those who would challenge His truths and authority! He turned over the money changers tables at the Temple, violently! He is the Lamb of GOD but also the Lion of Judah! We Christians have to acknowledge the politics of our day to have discernment in making decisions in how we prep. There’s no doubt in my mind that those who complain are liberal trolls or just liberals!

    • I agree with you. The people who complaint about my politics are usually far more liberal. I don’t think they visit often.

  6. Well said Chris.
    I wonder if it is a means to the end where the Executive Branch captures control over the debt and money discounting the 14th Amendment’s directive that U.S. debt be appropriated by the Congress. This will further Presidential power to better facilitate the Cloward-Piven Strategy. IMO this will rival the policy coup of 2001 and place us in even more direct line for prophetic scenarios. Time will tell.
    Again IMO, this is a pivotal time for prayer and watching.

    • Good points Jim. If EBT is shutdown next month, I see the potential for government to use this to make huge reaches. Both economic and to institute marshal law to quell the rioting. I think they’ll let things go until people are demanding government step in.

      • Jim Moore says:

        Agreed. This has been my greatest concern for quite some time now. It’s a card I hope they delay in playing but one I believe will inevitably be played.

        According to what I can find, researching the letter from the link you posted as well as the FNS Contingency Plan it referenced, the Recovery Act of 2009 raise of SNAP benefits 13.6% is what will end next month, not the total benefits. I think the delay is most likely in calculating those reductions from the ending of the Recovery Act coverage. That is unless something is manufactured to create a crisis. But who would do that? Keep in mind the recent reduction in SNAP by Congress of $40 Billion over 10 years will affect things too. In 2012 the U.S. spent $81 Billion on SNAP.

        • Chris Ray says:

          Are you saying you think the potential delay is not due to the government shutdown?

          I considered emailing the contact in the letter and asking for clarification, but decided not to.

          • Jim Moore says:

            Yes. Partially! Partially because of funding, budget and preplanned reductions.
            I found a copy of the letter; https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1380337_10151656956002691_287254097_n.jpg

            The report from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities here; http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899
            This explains the dates and cuts coming as well as the ending of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 increase benefits next month. It’s dated August 2, 2013

            The USDA FNS Shutdown plan outlines the details and explain that the $2 Billion in contingency funding slated to end at the end of FY2014 have already been provisioned on page 19;

            So my theory is partially because of the shutdown they don’t have everything figured out about the preplanned reductions starting next month. Partially they’re capitalizing on a fear factor, since the letter was dated Oct. 11. and they knew the Oct. 17 deadline for default was on the table. Notice the letter was stamped with the date and it wasn’t printed. This could be date received or date mailed. It could be it has been printed for a while waiting the unfolding of their agenda.
            Also, the date on the Shutdown plan PDF seems to me to be printed over a pre-printed document. Notice the comma in the date in the line on pages 17 and 18. It’s all about contingency plans alright…
            I we can’t meet our agenda one way we’ll meet it another. If this or that happens what do we do to still stay on track?
            Just a theory.

          • Chris Ray says:

            Interesting, thanks for doing the legwork on the policies.

            The whole thing is fishy to me.

          • Jim Moore says:

            Definitely fishy, all the way around.

  7. Chris, you posted a link to an article recently that really made me more aware of this potential EBT crisis. I don’t recall the author, but he painted a scenario of mass gang chaos that I found very disturbing, but helpful in fine-tuning my family plans. In fact I think it was after reading that article that I too, subscribed to AlertsUSA. I just hope that I’ll get enough warning from them to take action. Maybe worth re-posting the link?

    We live in middle/upper class suburbia. My wife works downtown in a major city, with a two-hour commute each way, via car and train. She’s got a BOB in her office and one in her car waiting at the station to help her get home, if needed. I work in the next town over from where we live, so I’m about 20 minutes drive to our home, kids school and preps. However, I work in a very tough, low-income neighborhood. The map above doesn’t go to this level of detail, but I suspect that where I work has a very high percentage of EBT recipients. To give you a greater sense of the neighborhood, at times I have been very close to being an innocent bystander of drive-by shootings. I thank God often for His hand of protection over me.

    I know you are a proponent of staying put, if possible, in crisis. However, I struggle with this a lot. Where we live is not easily defensible, with houses built right next to each other and backyard fences that butt up against our neighbor behind. I’m fortunate to have good neighbors. I don’t know them all, but 2 I know are active or retired law enforcement. Even with that, I’m inclined to get my kids rounded up, wait for my wife to get home – then bug out, if this EBT crisis happens during our work/school day. We’ve been working on those BO plans and have researched routes that avoid interstate to get out to more rural area. We’ve got more work to do on BO planning, but I’m still leaning this direction, even without a hard location to go to (as backpackers/campers, we’re pretty well prepared in that area).

    I’d love to hear your and others thoughts. May God bless and protect us all!

    • Chris Ray says:

      Todd I can’t seem to remember the article you mentioned, if you can remember any more about it, let me know.

      I do have a few thought on your BO situation. You’re right, I think people are better off staying home and battening down 95% of the time. But my line in the sand for bugging out, is when it is safer to be out on the road than it is staying home. For many people, it would be safer to hit the road if the EBT is shutdown next month.

      My house is the typical suburban house on the typical lot, laughably indefensible. I used to think bugging out was our best option, but I have reconsidered. If I lived in a high crime area, or there was other factors, I may stick to bugging out as a first option.
      Not sure if you saw this article I wrote about bug out myths, but number 3 might help you develop a few different plans. http://preparedchristian.net/challenging-bug-out-myths/

      To me getting solid get home plans for you and the wife are pretty important too. Wow two hours one way is a long commute. It might be a good idea for you to pick a few spots for her to make pit stops along the way. My thinking is in a worst case scenario and she either has to walk, or the roads are so jammed that the 2 hour commute takes much longer.

      I don’t envy your job location. The trick is going to decide when “it” has hit the fan sufficiently enough for you to tell your boss you’re going home or not coming in. It might also be a good idea come up with alternate routes home. When you’re mapping them, look for the safest way, and fastest way out of the hood. It might normally take longer, but could be ideal if the streets are full of people.

      Hope that helps some

      • Hmmm… maybe that article I read was posted on a different blog. I’ll look around to try to find it and send it to you. It’s a fascinating story of how gangs would form to hijack vehicles of innocent people trying to get out of town, and how militias could/would develop over time after normal law enforcement became overwhelmed and useless.

        I know multiple routes from my office to get out. I recently Google mapped, using the pedestrian route option, in case I can’t drive out, so I feel pretty confident about getting out of the work one way, or another. Contacting my boss, who works in another city, would be a simple matter of saying I’ve got a personal emergency and have to leave. He would understand and leave it at that, and probably discover for himself at some point why I left. His office is in a very wealthy community, so my impact would come long before his. I would leave the office immediately, based on the AlertUSA notification, telling me the system was down, with the hope that I know sooner than many of the EBT recipients who would eventually turn violent.

        In discussions with my wife, she’s made it clear that if I have to, get the boys and get out of town without her. Of course, that would be my absolute last resort. God help me if I ever have to face that decision. Unfortunately, the direction she commutes from is opposite of the direction we need to bug out. So meeting her somewhere in the middle, for example at the train station where she parks, is not ideal. Her commute in the car also takes her right through the area where I work, so she is in danger of running up against the rioting, and chaos, just trying to get home herself. There are alternative routes for her to drive home, that would take much longer, but be more likely to be safe. I need to remind her of those, and tell her in a text message to take them based on the AlertUSA I get. Thanks for the suggestions of alternate meeting points… we’ll have to work on that some more.

    • Jim Moore says:

      I feel for you Todd. I’m in a totally different situation and can only imagine your situation.
      It does sound like you are thinking clearly about things now and headed in the right direction.
      Others here may be able to tell you more about military strategy but I would have more than one contingency plan if I were you. One would include having some of those neighbors for a cookout or dinner and securing that area of your plan more clearly. Another would include having multiple rallying points for your wife just in case the first plan could not be completed safely. Just for instance, it may be safer for her to head east when you live south of her location. Find an eastern rally point just in case. Are there any wooded areas nearby where you could safely cache some emergency supplies? Perhaps this weekend would be a good time to secure some possible hard locations that at least that could temporarily meet your needs. Something like renting a small storage unit in a small nearby town and storing some preps there may be in order.
      Blessings to you!

  8. Rev. Dr. Michael E Harris says:

    In my town (population 28,000), a very large percentage of the population is on some form of government assistance. Keep in mind that the average four-member family on assistance gets more than $61,000 a year–tax free. I think most Americans could live on that money. Locally, we have welfare hotel that charges $1,900 a month for a room. You and I pay for that. My mortgage is high, but nowhere near that amount. In addition to an expensive room, these people get about $800 a month for food and personal items. I am offered welfare cards for half the value a few times a year; I wonder what the people want with cash?

    As preppers, we can go much longer than three days without visiting the grocery store. I buy what I can afford, but I often see the welfare people in leather jackets with expensive bling paying for caviar and expensive steaks with their EBT card. When I was much younger, my aunt was the director of welfare in a modestly-sized city in South Jersey. In those days, people on welfare were between jobs and often paid back the agency a little of what they had received when times were tough. No one was on welfare long term. People were embarrassed to be on welfare, so they found a new job as quickly as possible. Our liberal society has removed the embarrassment so the people feel ‘entitled’.

    If we were to get enough from the government to live, I would not work very hard to earn it. When you make everyone ‘equal’, the smart, hard-working people stop working hard and the quality of life decreases. That sounds a lot like today.

    I believe that as a Christian, I have an obligation to the legal government of the land. I pay my fair share of taxes–not like those who do not pay taxes, but scream that the working people have to pay their fair share. My fair share is probably less than one third of what I pay.

    • Chris Ray says:

      I agree, when government makes us all equal, the hard workers have no incentive to continue to work hard. The people who were collecting welfare also have no incentive to do anything at all.

  9. Brandon Balzer says:

    It seems most people commenting on this article live in or near large populations. I live in a very rural area. My parents live a mile away from me and operate a dairy farm. I keep telling my dad to make sure he has plenty of guns and ammo around. My concern is where people will go AFTER the grocery stores are cleaned out! I think they will come out here. My concern is hostile people and defending the farm from getting ransacked. I would welcome comments/thoughts from any of you city slickers out there….

    • Chris Ray says:

      Much of the answers we can give you are speculative, because we haven’t got anything from our modern history to give examples from. I do remember reading an article from a prepper who lived through the economic crash in Argentina. He said something to the effect of, that while there were risks and violence in the city he lived in, he felt it was safer there then in a remote farm miles from the city.

      He said that police response time was so incredibly slow, it was not a deterrent. That one family alone wasn’t enough to keep watch and defend the farms if needed.

      With that being said, depending on how far your neighbors are from one another, you could all work together. Keeping an eye out for strange vehicles, and backing each other up. For this to work well, a CB system might come in very handy. You could also have a couple times during the day set up as check in times. If someone didn’t check in, others could go and check on them to make sure everything was alright.

      Hope that helps some.

      • Brandon Balzer says:

        That does help Chris. We will have to take things into our own hands, of course that is a farmer by nature. Good communication among neighbors/family members will be paramount. We are one of very few farms in the area that has things to eat. Most farms in our area are corn/soybean farmers. I can see the neighbors helping out because they would depend on us too.

  10. Bless God, the shutdown didn’t happen and EBTs are still online. Gives me more time to prepare. Even so, it is written: Seek first the kingdom and food and clothing will be (WILL BE) provided.

  11. George Mason says:

    Good Morning Chris et al.

    The handwriting is on the wall isn’t it?

    According to John Adams the second president of the United states, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” I submit that our nation is no longer moral or religious and as such we not only court disaster, we ensure it.

    George Mason, Virginia Statesman and the Father of the Bill of Rights said, “As nations cannot be rewarded or punished in the next world, they must be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes and effects, Providence punishes national sins by national calamities.” Could America’s fate already be sealed?

    America has exchanged the bedrock or our founding, Jesus Christ, with the wood, hay and stubble of political correctness. We face two possible destinies: the first is a sovereign move of Almighty God to bring us to repentance and revival a la, 2Chronicles 7:14. The second is to witness the utter collapse of our nation and the ugliness that entails.

    The recent Food Stamp/EBT snafu was glimpse into what lies ahead. Our society, our culture, our nation rests on a thin veneer of normalcy. Be aware of the cracks in that veneer and prepare now to feed and protect your family and friends.

    And if there was ever a time for boldness (I am preaching to myself here), this is the time to share with people the one true and lasting safety net–the salvation offered by Jesus Christ.


    • Chris Ray says:

      Well said George, thank you.

    • Rev. Dr. Michael E Harris says:


      I have read that quote many times in the last year or so. The only people who understand it are Believers. The godless seem to be unable to understand that when a country is founded by men of faith for people of faith, the loss of that faith is the end of the country. The faith of Believers is strong, but there are too few of us and far fewer who will stand up to a corrupt and evil government. Note that the ‘faith’ of the Muslims is still strong, even though only 10% of them are radicalized.

      The bill that ended the ‘shutdown’ was an opportunity for all members of Congress to add a little pork into the bill for their constituents. Both major parties sold out the nation.

      • George Mason says:

        Mornin’ Pastor Harris,

        “The faith of Believers is strong, but there are too few of us and far fewer who will stand up to a corrupt and evil government.” I concur with your assessment and I am reminded of a scene from the 1997 movie “Titanic”.

        After the iceberg encounter the ship’s captain gathered a handful of men to study the ship’s schematics and drawings. While most were incredulous the Titanic could sink, Thomas Andrews who helped build the ship assured them, “…this ship will sink.” Andrews went on to explain that the ship’s bulkheads were not ‘capped’, i.e., they were not closed compartments. Water would reach a bulkhead top and spill over into the next and so on and so on. Research into that North Atlantic disaster revealed that while the iceberg scrape was over one hundred feet long, the actual puncture of the hull was about the size of refrigerator!

        America’s ship of state has and continues to run afoul of icebergs: 1962 – prayer banned in public schools, 1963 – the Bible banned in public schools, 1973 – abortion on demand, 2013 – gay marriage. Sadly a majority of Americans poo-poo such events as no big deal. From Holy God’s perspective America has turned it’s collective back on Him as we sail full steam ahead into the floe.

        Praise God he is still sovereign and still on the throne and provides us with men and women we can and should emulate; Esther, Nehemiah, Bonhoeffer and the like. Your people are blessed to have you, Pastor; continue to fight the good fight and swell the ranks of those who believe and prepare.

        Blessings – George

    • Jim Moore says:

      Very well said George. Thank You!

    • “We face two possible destinies: the first is a sovereign move of Almighty God to bring us to repentance and revival a la, 2Chronicles 7:14. The second is to witness the utter collapse of our nation and the ugliness that entails.”

      Thank you for sharing your insight. I agree. However, we can’t rule out that the second fate you mentioned might be what propels us into the first: repentance.

      Too many out there think America is too big to fail. Sadly, they fail to realize that we do answer to a sovereign, holy God who neither needs America, nor will He favor America past a particular point of collectively turning our backs on Him (and who knows where that point is and how close we are to it?)

      But there is hope in that just as Abraham asked God if He would spare Sodom for the sake of ten righteous, we might scrape by, perhaps, if God is willing. But if we continue as we are, and if we do happen to be spared, I believe it would be “as though by fire”…Back to your original point, we need national repentance in a big way.

  12. I’m a couple days late getting to this article. So, now that the agreement has been reached and the government “re-opened”, is this still in effect?

    Thanks for the info.

    • Chris Ray says:

      My guess is that the month long shutdowns were kicked down the road along with the other problems that went along with raising the debt limit.

  13. TexasScout says:

    The EBT thing is nothing more than thievery. Those people saw an opportunity to STEAL a lot of food and went for it. Walmart was an idiot for letting it happen. The only “example” it shows is how fast a crowd can. Lear a store out. We have plenty of examples of that already.


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