May 25, 2013

Rules for Extended Company

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I recently received an email from a new reader asking about what rules one might put in place when extended family comes to stay, either because they were ill prepared, or are forced to leave their home for some reason.

Andrea said “…much would depend on what type of emergency situation we were facing, but that having some guidelines on things such as how much water, food was to be used per person, what the thermostat should be set to, shared tasks would be helpful.”

Having made two six month cruises on the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, I know a thing or two about living in close proximity to others for long periods of time.  The US Navy came up with some of the policies on how we would all get along.  We developed others out of necessity along the way.

I think this is a great idea.  If you have a wide list of potential guidelines, you can pick and choose the ones that might fit your life and the situation you’re facing.

The scenario I had in mind while writing this was one other family staying at my house with no supplies of their own for more than just a few days.  If the visiting party brought their own supplies, you’ll just need to focus on the areas where they are dependent upon you.  With that being said, here are some general areas and some guidelines.

 

Space

Sharing space over an extended period of time with anyone can be stressful.  When you add extra people there need to be some boundaries established that respect private space as well as shared, public space.

If you want certain rooms to be private, bedrooms for example, establish a clear boundary that no one is allowed in anyone’s bedroom.  Making bedrooms off limits can also help give you a private place away from everyone else.  One of the hardest things about being on a ship with 6,000 other people is that alone time is very hard to come by.

Request that everyone please help keep the common areas that are shared by everyone clean.  If you make a mess, clean it up.

 

Shared Chores

We raised the boys with the understanding that each of us had to contribute to get the chores done.  I think this is the only way to go in a small group scenario, where people are sharing an address for an extended time.

This area will vary largely, based on the type of scenario, the location where you live and the makeup of your group.  Instead of coming up with a chore list, here are some things to keep in mind.

There is a good chance those staying with you will want to help earn their keep.  Be willing to share the duty with chores they are capable of doing.

Kids will either be very eager to help, or very eager to avoid helping.  I do not recommend letting anyone off.  Favoritism can quickly lead to resentment.  To avoid it, give small chores that can quickly be done by all kids.  If those who are eager to help want more after, they might be allowed a special reward for doing extra.

 

Children

People differ on how to raise kids, but having multiple sets of rules for different kids is just asking for Billy to be angry because he has to go to bed at 8:00 PM and his cousin Robby who’s the same age can stay up until 10:00 PM.

Not all rules need to be the same, but on things that might show favoritism it might be a good idea.

 

Utilities

Depending on the scenario, you may or may not have power or heat.  If utilities are working, my feeling is that whomever pays the bills sets the thermostat, keeping everyone’s safety in mind of course.

It will need to be understood that shower times need to be limited to a short duration, so that everyone can shower.

If the power is out and you have a generator, you’ll need to agree on what gets powered.  If you can keep the fridge and the freezer cold by running the generator a few times a day, setting a rule about who is allowed to go in them might be a good idea.

When I was in the Navy there was only one or two television channels available while at sea.  Believe it or not, that was probably a good thing.  Trying to get a group to agree on which show to watch is like nailing Jell-O to a tree.  If you have a working TV, and/or DVD player, putting all options in a hat and drawing one might be the best way to go.

 

Food and Water

This is another area that will depend greatly on the kind of scenario you’re faced with.  If the event is short in duration or is longer duration and you can still get to the store and purchase goods, it is much different than a long term duration where the support infrastructure has collapsed.  If you have a well, this is a much different conversation than someone on municipal water and sewer.

If water is in short supply, you may have to ration it.  You will have to stop taking showers to conserve water.  The rule of thumb is that a person needs one gallon of drinking water a day, more in warm climates or if highly active.

When it comes to rationing food, there is a big difference between making due for a few days until a trip to the store can be made, versus a life changing event that caused you to make due until harvest time.

If you are forced to ration food, keep health conditions in mind, how many calories are burned doing physical activity and the needs of children.

 

Disagreements

With many people sharing the same space, tension could be high without facing an emergency situation.  Add the extra pressure and you’ve got the potential for everyone being on everyone else’s nerves.  Finding a fair way to deal with disagreements is something to think about ahead of time, before everyone is torqued off.

If I were in a situation that saw Trudee and I playing host to more people for an extended time, I would need to make sure we had wine, lots and lots of wine.  Just kidding.

I would be tempted to go with “My house, my rules”.  Depending on the disagreement, that might not be the best route.  I try to be objective and understand both sides of an argument, but I don’t always succeed and, like everyone, I make mistakes.  For that reason, every adult should have some say in daily life, and compromise should be well-used.

I think that every group needs a leader, someone who breaks ties and when compromise fails, has the final say.  There are also some things that I am just not willing to tolerate in my house. When it comes to the safety, well being and righteousness of my family, my foot is down.  Don’t ask again.

I am sure I missed some rules or guidelines.  If you think of some, please post them in the comment section.

 

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Comments

  1. Great post. Everyone needs to print this out to put in their Prepping notebook. Most non-prepped families will not have a clue of what to do, or even where to start. This is just great advice in general!
    Thanks again.

  2. Chris another great article. I agree somewhat with you in the fact My house My rules. My husband and I have lived and raised 2 sons in a 40 year time span. Through out our time together we have had different relatives and a few friends stay with us. I found out rather quickly that if I didn’t set the rules down soon after the relatives and so called friends arrived I was the one doing all the work with my husband going to his job. I can understand the need to be kind and compassionate but that can only go so far before I am the one who is resentful of them being there. All would be welcome with the understanding that if you eat or drink you must contribute to the over all good of the household. It would have to be understood from the beginning. I am by no means a tyrant but living in close quarters in our small home would deem it a necessity, Unless there is a medical reason as to why you could not help then that would be different and I can deal with that. In my opinion all the kids would be treated the same taking into consideration their ages. I would not expect a 5 year old to go to sleep at midnight anymore than I would expect a teen to go to bed at 8 o’clock.

    • Jim Moore (JTHTTK) says:

      Good post Chris.
      I agree with you Suni, everyone MUST contribute. It’s the “or else” that will be hard to deliver but there has to be definite consequences for Not contributing.
      Our 4 children are grown with a bunch of little ones around, I’m thinking I will be more inclined to move out to the shed and let them have the house.

      • Chris Ray says:

        Thanks Jim.

      • Rebecca says:

        Ah, I just laughed so hard. I laughed so hard the big man came out to see what was so funny. I’m so glad I’m not alone. I love my family, I enjoy my friends, but any one set over a week can be enough to make my eyes cross. It’s good enough, at all three locations I’ve found half-hidden places to be, but they’re all relatively small homes for the whole passel. I’ll be kind enough to take my old dog to the shed and deer stand with me.
        I totally needed that laugh, I am so totally grateful. – RSN

    • Chris Ray says:

      Thanks Suni. I agree, everyone has to contribute or those who do will start feeling taken advantage of.

  3. I am mother to 7 adult children, and grandmother to nearly a dozen grands. I have a large extended family who live near to me. Trust me, I know about large groups. I have a LARGE house and extensive property, and on a normal day-to-day basis, there are at least 8 people “living” here. Anyone might drop in at meal times, and I never know if I’m feeding just two, or twelve. Holidays have been known to host as many as 30. I love it!

    I have one major rule. I’m the MOM. If Momma ain’t happy, nobody’s happy. That means all the Mom rules apply– wipe your feet, do your chores with a smile, don’t leave dishes in your room, clean up your own mess, take arguments outside, etc.

    Second rule is, if it’s not yours don’t mess with it. No “borrowing” without explicit permission.

    They all know they’re welcome here in good times and bad. But they all know ahead of time they’ll live by my rules and morals if they come here. The point here is, they know before they ever cross the door, that this house has a Mom.

    • Chris Ray says:

      Great stuff. I actually bought my wife a plaque that says “If momma ain’t happy, ain’t no one happy”. One of those general rules for life.

  4. Thanks Chris, for posting this. You offered some real good ideas (especially on the ample supplies of wine)

  5. Son of Liberty says:

    Sometimes visitor’s (wanted & unwanted) bring along pets, and this can be a serious issue that must be dealt with. The book, “Discovery to Catastrophe” deals with that issue during the course of the book, especially when the community practices bugging out in a disaster drill. I suggest every family who is going to play the host to friends/family give this some thought and significant discussion.

    “Discovery to Catastrophe” can provide some insight on this subject, and a host of others. It is a great read.

    Blessings

    • Chris Ray says:

      True, others pets can cause problems, especially if they don’t gel with your pets. We had the opportunity to watch my mother in laws dog for a week. She has such a high pitched bark, and used it so frequently I was more than ready for the week to end after the second day.

      I’m actually reading “Discovery to Catastrophe” now, but haven’t had time to read very much.

  6. On this there is one thing to consider. As i Lucifer’s Hammer the guy that owned the land that the commune was on got out voted and tossed off of his own property by the others that moved in.
    Better have a plan to keep what you worked for – don’t let the moochers just take over..

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