October 20, 2014

What Can We Do When People Won’t Listen?

This week I want to talk to you about sharing preparedness; how to share and how not to, what to do when people won’t listen and some of the reasons why they don’t listen. I’ll even share some ideas about what you can do when you hear the dreaded “If it ever hits the fan, I’ll just come to your house”.

What Can We Do When People Won’t Listen?

It is human nature to want to share something we believe in with people that we care about. When there is something that we know is important, that we know is good, whether it’s our faith, preparedness or anything else. Why they don’t see things as clearly as we do can be confusing, frustrating or even heartbreaking.

I have had a couple of e-mail conversations with people asking different versions of the same question; “Why does God ask some people to prepare and not others?” and “My family thinks I’m crazy because I want to prepare. How can I get them on board?”

First let me ask; who can truly know the mind of God? I don’t claim to. I have been thinking about this and going over scripture to see if there are any examples I could draw from, trying to glean His wisdom from other areas to see if they fit this topic as well. Some of the things you’ll read in this article you might not like, while others you might find peace in. Please know that I say them all out of love.

Different Parts of the Body 1 Corinthians 12:12

“The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ.”

Paul tells us that we are all different parts of the body, each with different gifts. We all know God gives us different kinds of gifts (besides spiritual gifts). Some people are athletic and some are intellectual. I think God asks some of us to live each day waiting for manna to eat, yet others He asks to prepare. The plan that He has for your life could be drastically different than a loved ones, but in the end it might all be for His glory.

Pearls Before Swine Mathew 7:6

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.”

Jesus told the disciples not to throw the pearls (of wisdom) before the swine because they wouldn’t understand. Did you ever read the Bible before you were a believer? I did and it didn’t make sense, not until I took that step of faith and gave my life to Him.

Along the same line, some of the people you share preparedness with just won’t see the reason until something happens to open their eyes. If someone resists, you might save yourself some grief and just let it go, which brings me to my next point.

Shake the Dust From Your Feet Mathew 10-14-15

“If any household or town refuses to welcome you or listen to your message, shake its dust from your feet as you leave. 15 I tell you the truth, the wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrah will be better off than such a town on the judgment day.”

These two verses are important and something I am trying to live by more often. Jesus said that the people in the homes or towns would be worse off than Sodom and Gomorrah for not welcoming them, let alone not listening or refusing the good news. Jesus loved the people that were in the towns that might dismiss the disciples, but they were not more important than the mission He had sent the disciples on.

To be clear, I am not saying that the people who won’t listen to your reasons for prepping are doomed to hell. What I am saying is that if they won’t listen, maybe you should just move on and shake the dust from your feet.

God is calling many of His people to prepare; I see them find this site every day. Seek Him, if He is calling you to prepare, prepare with these people in mind if you must, but keep your actions to yourself. Bringing your actions to light could compound the negativity. Do not let their negativity or scoffing stop you. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ. If you are obedient, any guilt or shame you feel is from the pits of hell.

God gave us the ability to tell Him no and walk into danger. We may want to choose differently for our loved ones, but maybe we should follow Gods example and let them find it on their own, even if it means some pain in the process.

(By trying to live more like this, I mean that I stand up for what I believe in, but if someone is antagonistic, a scoffer or pig-headedly resistant, I just shake the dust and go back to what I was doing.)

Easier Said Than Done

I realize this is easier said than done if it is a member of your immediate family or someone you love. When I first brought the idea of preparing to my wife, she was a little reluctant. We had a few conversations about it. I began searching scripture and we eventually got on the same page.

If she would have stood her ground and said “no”, I would have taken that to the Lord. If He continued to press preparedness, I would have prayed that she be open to me moving forward. I would have told her that I believed the Lord wanted me to do this, and that I have to be obedient.

My wife supports me, even if she doesn’t feel called to do something. If I feel called, she’s behind me. If she wasn’t behind me, I would still ask that some money go toward preparedness every week and assure her that I would not be over-buying. I would continue to prepare but always remain respectful of her feelings.

The best thing we can do is go to the King and ask for guidance and for His will to be done.

 

Comments

  1. Thanks Chris! I needed this! My husband and I go back and forth on this very issue…I have so many friends and family that just won’t listen and I feel almost GUILTY, because we are planning on going to our bug out spot with our prepper group…and leaving all of them behind!

    • Chris Ray says:

      Teresa I am glad you got something from the article. Keeping doing what you’re doing and pray that your family and friends wake up, than lot the spirit work on them.

  2. Hi Chris,

    Noah labored on the Ark for 120 years and no-one listened to him. He didn’t make even one convert during all that time. Keep moving in the direction God is leading you.

  3. This post really speaks to my families heart for other believers. The last section about easier said than done is very similuar to our story. Our heart is equipping other believers to serve through times of crisis and it is great to see other christians encouraging others to prepare.

    • Chris Ray says:

      Andrew I agree, it is encouraging to see believers preparing. I know more and more are beginning to wake up.

  4. Dear Chris,I know of alot of people that don’t understand.When they hear of me and my family prepping,they take notice,and are actually considering prepping.They would never admit it to anyone,but when they ask questions about what we are doing,and how, that makes me think God is working in his own way. After all the right hand is not supposed to know what the left is doing.Meaning I’m not supposed to know,just believe. I really enjoyed this article,thanks for writing it. I’ve been keeping an eye on the news lately I don’t know why exactly,just am. Thanks for everything

    • Chris Ray says:

      Hi James,

      Bless you for talking to other families; I think you’re doing the right thing. I wrote this article for people who run into others who won’t listen, it sounds like you have some who are. I’m glad you liked the article, thanks for the compliment.

  5. I like this article, it’s appropriate, so, asked how I deal with the problem of folks not listening, my answer follows:

    Let me say first that “Witnessing for Christ” is way more important, but it is an excellent analogy about warning people about the necessity of preparing for the coming collapse of the US financial system.

    In witnessing for the Lord or telling others to wake up to what’s coming, all you or I can do is prayerfully tell them, live the life, go to church, read our Bible, and pray. We sow but we do not always reap, or another witnesses reap, the same applies in prep-er warning.

    When the good word or “our good prep-ing warning” falls on stoney ground and doesn’t sprout, or thorns pop up (cares of the world choke it out) or hopefully falls on good ground and we help someone get saved or start prep-ing or even start their own group. Give God the glory.

    We are not responsible for the condition of the ground, or the growth of the seed, our only responsibility is to care and educate (to sow).

    We can only lead them to water (safety) if their hearts and minds are open and ready to listen. We cannot make them drink neither of the living water nor the understanding of the necessity to prepare for the lack of drinking water.

    So no one needs to beat themselves up, walk the walk, share the message, God gives the increase, help start other groups if yours is full, no guilt need apply.

  6. I Timothy 5:8…If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is WORSE than an unbeliever.

  7. Hi Jay Jay,

    So some family members or close friends party on and totally ignores your warnings and scoffs at your info. They tear down their barns and build up bigger ones.

    Then your BOL is over full and they should just show up and eat your stuff when the crisis hits.

    I guess if your rich and have planed for that and saved space anyway that would be OK.

    But how about being fair to the the others in your Group who listened, planed, and sacrificed to get ready?

    You can throw out a Bible verse out of context for anything?

    How about . . . 2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

    Or Genesis 4:9 b, Am I my brother’s keeper?

    Here is another reference in Matthew:

    24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

    25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

    26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

    27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

    Or:

    Proverbs 6:6 Is a good read about sluggards, remember the ant?

    I have found a pattern that the wealthier folks are content and do not believe America could fail, they will loose the most and not be prepared. It seems to be the average common Christian that is getting ready.

    Anybody else noticed this pattern?

    • Chris Ray says:

      Context is everything, that’s why I asked JayJay. I’m not sure about the wealthier being content, I have heard quite a few interviews with wealthy people who are very concerned and are preparing. It’s probably true that there are more “common” people preparing, but my guess is that is just because there are more common people in the world.

    • Why did this get taken the wrong way??

      Prepare for your family..that is your job..God blessed you if you are in a position to be preparing in the first place.
      Nowhere in this scripture does it say..give it to the sluggards…the ones buying the latest boy toys and blings.
      I and my husband have sacrificed for three years–I ‘ain’t’ giving it away.
      Know what????..those that feel obligated to do that–fine –go for it.
      However, not preparing on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
      God did warn Noah and he prepared…but verse says, and then the Lord shut him in.
      I believe God shut that door for Noah; in His way, God assured it was His command he was following.
      Just my opinion.

      • Chris Ray says:

        Hi JayJay,

        I didn’t take it the wrong way, I just wasn’t sure how you meant it. I like your point on how God shut the door, I hadn’t thought of that.

      • JayJay…I was reminded in your post not only of Noah but also the ant and the grasshopper. Unfortunately the grasshopper dies..but the lesson is prepare.

        I like the reference you used.regarding Noah. We do need to prepare for our family and relatives in that we need to TELL them, help them, guide them, Your first post may have sounded like we needed to do it all for them but your explaination is wonderful in that Noah did tell, help, guide…then he shut the door. I believe that will be the hard part for Christians..to shut the door and that will be hard, but following Christ isn’t always easy…but it IS THE BEST !!

    • Oh, Andrew–I have a retired couple next door. I totally agree with you–they don’t see it coming.
      They have pensions and social security checks; never in their minds could those stop.
      Never in their minds could there be empty shelves at the grocery shelves.
      Never in their minds could gas attain such a price that the trucks don’t run.
      They just accept higher prices of gas and food…they think ‘today’, not tomorrow.
      I’m the ‘looney tune’ on this street.
      My husband supports every can of food, every medical supply, every box of detergent, every gas can filled using ‘his’ s.s. check. He gets it since he uses lots of diesel hauling logs here in Kentucky. Most don’t and won’t until it slaps them up side that old hard nogging.
      Peace …JayJay

  8. This was very encouraging !
    as a college student that is prepping it can be very discouraging , especially when the ones you live with ( parents) think your insane, ” that wont happen here in the U.S” type of attitude.
    At first ,i started bookmarking web pages for info or to shop later one once i had money to buy little by little like extra flashlights, knives, etc; it bothered me that no one was on board, that i was “insane in the membrane” for wasting my time, money on this possibility of economic collapse or war at our home front.
    But for the past few months as ive added little by little to my survival backpack that i keep in my truck , i have felt so at peace just keeping this ” hobby” to myself & not giving in to their laughs, critiques, and just doing what I prayerfully feel, think I need to do to better take care of myself and those around me if possible.
    Also maybe one of the reasons why they may label preppers as crazy is b.c they themselves ,deep inside might feel vulnerable, scared of what might happen, and they deny this feelings by poking fun at those who have gotten over that emotional hump and are ready to take action by prepping for a possible impact on our lives….. its tough trying to prep here in Los Angeles as a college student, but i feel its even tougher for individuals to realize our vulnerability as a nation and as an individual.
    prayers would be greatly appreciated
    ;-)

    • Chris Ray says:

      I’m glad you were encouraged. You might not have a lot of people around you with your mindset, but know that you are well beyond most people with your mindset. I really wish I had it when I was your age, I would be on my homestead right now. Good for you for getting your survival backpack together. You might not have a lot of extra cash, but you are on the right path with saving book marks, learning is free and building skills is often free.

      Next time you get discouraged drop me an e-mail, until then I’ll be praying for you.

    • Omar my prayers are with you on your journey to prepare. Remember that even a little bit can go a long way. Do not let others discourage you. It will be amazing how smart you become when they realize you have been preparing for year(s) and they are so far behind you in their own preparations.

      Keep up the good work.

    • Omar–I hear ya. But let me say that I feel prepping is rough on everyone–young and old alike. We are all living in bad times and taking not-so-normal steps to prepare for a very uncertain future. In our case, we are close to retiirement age–(59&52) but not quite there yet. My husband has 35 years at his job. We live in a big city in Fl and know we need to get out. We see that we have two choices–continue on here as “normal” people would do—go to work, pay bills and shake our heads at the way things are changing and hope all the preper-talk is wrong. Or we can leave the job and city and get to “higher ground” so to speak. In order to do that my husbancd looses HALF of his pension. So, yes we are nervous and scared about all the “what ifs” that play around in our heads. What we’re doing is not normal at a time where jobs are hard to get. But that is what we have decided to do. After a lot of prayer and being offered a BOL, we have decided to retire and take that loss. I have lived here in this city my whole life and it is hard to leave family and friends, but I know and my husband knows that we are doing the right thing. Scary though it may be, I keep thinking about a quote I read from the ’5 Stages..’ article on SHTF.com–”it’s better to prepare for ten years than to wait for ten minutes” Our faith has also played a big part in our preparing. The Lord is always one step ahead of us it seems, so we’ll just keep moving forward til He says stop. Good luck in Prepping.

      • Chris Ray says:

        Martie is sounds like you and your husband made a tough choice, losing half of his pension is a bitter pill to swallow. But if you feel that you’re in God’s will, then you made the right choice. I pray that you’re blessed in many ways in your new surroundings.

  9. while we are prepping and others in our family and friend group are not and even to a degree stating that they will show up when it’s time (assuming that we will take care of them too) it will have to be those that we are preparing for. Those that are not prepping or even trying will find that we are unable to share.

    We have discussed and prayed about this and find that Chris you hit the nail on the head. If someone is not willing to work, plan or even try…and then expect us to just turn oven food and supplies to them because they are related or friends would not be what we are supposed to do. There are so many ‘takers’ in the world instead of ‘doers’. Even the worker bees eat..because they work…those that don’t are run off or die.

    While I don’t want anyone to die…I do know that what I prepare for will be first to immediate family and then those that are working. No matter how little you have…putting aside $10 and spending it on food you are storing is a LOT better than the $20 spent on movie rentals, dvd’s, and such.

    I plan to help…I plan to keep spreading not only the need for prepping but using God’s word to show that we should all be doing this.

  10. I read two prepper sites in which I have learned many things; and the greatest theory for me was this from one father and husband on this topic here..
    He stated that he told his family–if you want to feed a boyfriend, a girlfriend, a friend, a homeless person—that is your choice.
    But, that meal taken will come from you–not this family. I have just enough for us, and that meal sacrificed will be sacrificed by you.

    I respect that. Makes us all think, doesn’t it??

    I pray EVERY night for wisdom to know what is right when this collapse happens.

  11. How to build a group you can trust to watch your back, bring the right skill-sets to your group, and mesh in a common goal:

    When I became convinced that either the Lord was coming soon or if he tarried we needed to prepare for the inevitable crash, I did a ton of research and reading. I hope this will encourage and help you.

    I liked something I saw on the Glen Beck show, I believe he called his outline the 6 G’s. I had already arrived at a similar plan before this particular show and I was working on 7-G’s as follows:

    Using this out line (7-G;s) ( below) I started trying to educate about 50 friends from work, church and family and then network to find the right folks and skills.

    Like Gideon I was looking to find out who would drink with their heads up and their eyes open. Who was thoughtful enough or wise enough to get involved in the conversation.

    I talked to them in groups, around lunch or dinner tables, one on one, and I sent out a lot of e-mail info, we even had folks over for dinner, etc. Watched and Waited for the “Lords Leading” of who would be in our ark (A-Team) with us.

    This outline below was our starting point for identifying like minded folk:

    The 7-G of preparation are: God, Ground, Gold, Grub, Group, Guns, Gas

    GOD first and always. We do not want the economy and the dollar to fail, we want to go up with our loved ones. But when you read the history of God’s people (the Jews) they went through hard times (many times) and we may also before God’s final call. His guidance and answer to prayers will lead the way he NEVER fails. But he tells us it rains on the just and the unjust alike.

    GROUND, You cannot defend a home or a subdivision, the cities will become untenable, you need a Bug Out Location (BOL). How serious were we? We sold our home in a large southern city and rented, then we bought land with modest accommodations 10 hours away.

    When the cities turn to gangs I wanted a hide-a-way a hour or two away from any city in an area where my family and A-Team could become an agrarian (farm) society. Why so far from any city? So as the fuel runs out, raiding parties from the big cities will not have the fuel to get there. Also a smaller community will band together to protect one another, and they will barter with you for needed goods.

    GOLD, and Silver, no millionaire here, so we concentrated on silver, some cash and commodities to barter.

    Three times in American history when things got bad the Government seized Gold. During WWII you could not go to your own safety deposit box without a Government man there to view the contents.

    Silver is best purchased on the local level from coin dealers on-line mail order houses will cheat you. Silver will go way up in value and hold you over till a different currency is in place. Probably a one world currency.

    Advice, do not just get silver dollars, get halves, quarters and dimes as well. To buy and sell you will need to make change. Again in history, people have had to cut pie shaped pieces out of coins to try and make change. If a silver dollar goes up to 3 or 400 dollars an ounce, the other coins will help you do business without a hack saw.

    GRUB, long term food storage, we started with checking dates on cans got a lot but its bulky and heavy to transport. Got into dehydrating and Mylar. Also dry goods like beans, rice, grain etc. Focusing now on amenities to supplement meals through freeze drying and canning. Meals need to be well rounded. We are shooting for 2 years supply for our entire A-Team.

    The minute you arrive at your BOL (which needs a dependable water source) your focus needs to be on growing, hunting, fishing, etc. So garden seeds are important too. Your group can brain storm this. Many commodities and condiments will be needed.

    GROUP, we do our part God provides the increase, we consider our group complete (closed) except for a couple of special needs such as maybe a great mechanic or farmer or hunter (as examples). They are from 5 different states and bring unique skills and experiences. The journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. Your group will only be located through diligent prayer and networking. Like precious faith is important, if things get worse and worse you’ll want ethical, trustworthy folk.

    GUNS, ammo, knives, tools, equipment fuel sources etc. No one here wants to hurt anyone rather we hope to help others, but we do not want to be overrun or bullied or stolen from so we are prepared and practiced to defend our group.

    Keys here will be deciding on a few different calibers for hunting, or defense so you can inventory and store your lots of shells. Focus on grouping calibers that are easier to find and affordable. Don’t have 10 or 20 people on your team with 10 different calibers each (plan well) it’s just to expensive and hard to stock or restock that way.

    GAS, when things get bad (run on the banks), banks will limit their hours. ATM’s will not be turned off to stop the runs.

    People will be coming together (bugging out) from several places, planning the fuel needed and storing it will become vital. On a long trip you may need cashes of fuel hidden along the way. It may be available along the way but, It may also now be $100 dollars a gallon if the currency has failed or people are beginning to gouge.

    Many times I have recommended a movie put out by the History Chanel for people to rent. The name of the film is “After Armageddon”.

    Two gentlemen with doctorates wrote and moderate this movie it’s thoughtfully done.

    The catalyst for the collapse (in the movie) is a pandemic. (But it does not matter) if it is a pandemic, currency collapse due to bad loans to buck up the failing Euro, or China’s and Russia’s publicized meeting to remove the dollar as the world trade currency because of 16 trillion in national dept. Either way hyper inflation, run on the banks, panic ensue, followed by the demise of civilization as we know it.

    This film gives you step by step examples of how the large cities will fail and you will be amazed how fast that will take place. Please view it it is a great teaching tool.

    I did not write this to scare anyone, I hope it will turn the light on for anyone still on the fence for prepping. I hope it will save your life.

    Remember, if the prep-ers are wrong we eat the food, vacation or retire on the land, use or sell the silver etc. but if we are right it’s gonna be really bad.

    Prep-in is a win-win if planed well and please pay as you go. Don’t panic and build on credit.

    I wish i could give you more thorough details but I know this is a long read already. Sorry.

    If there is an specific area you wish to have more knowledge or background on just ask, blog back.

    We will share knowledge with anyone, we wish to be an encouragement.

    May the Lord bless you and keep you.

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